WOW! Are you kidding me?!!

[Smith]

So far in my time on this forum, I've discovered that Steyr lovers have serious inferiority complexes.

[John McClane]

Originally Posted by Smith

So far in my time on this forum, I've discovered that Steyr lovers have serious inferiority complexes.

I have been here since day one, and have yet to see anyone say my brand is better then yours.

Myself, I don't own a STG and have nothing against the gun other then it's return rate.

Soooo, I won't even think of purchasing one until the odds are in my favor of not having to return it directly after I slap down the cash for one.

My father has had several problems with his two STG's, bolts etc.

He still owns the both of them.

[Smith]

Being that there are only 2 Aug versions, it is a fairly safe assumption all the worthless post about MSAR being the worst thing ever is not from MSAR owners. Especially considering this is an Aug forum.

What I have read net wide from MSAR owners is that they are VERY happy with their MSAR's. I would certainly like to see return rate numbers instead of the same jack ass's posting conjecture. Even if they have gone back I have yet to read of anyone not getting their problem corrected. Nor have I seen a negative review. In fact they have all been the opposite.

An American company making an Austrian product better from the ground up is going to have some issues. Heck S&W and Ruger have recalls on every new line they release. With Ruger it is even a running joke that every release comes with a return form for the impending recall. LCR, LCP, SR9 ................

[Sharp Shooter]

Originally Posted by Smith

An American company making an Austrian product better from the ground up

How did you come up with this, from it's tried & proven redesign of the gun?

[kfeltenberger]

Originally Posted by Smith

Being that there are only 2 Aug versions, it is a fairly safe assumption all the worthless post about MSAR being the worst thing ever is not from MSAR owners. Especially considering this is an Aug forum.

What I have read net wide from MSAR owners is that they are VERY happy with their MSAR's. I would certainly like to see return rate numbers instead of the same jack ass's posting conjecture. Even if they have gone back I have yet to read of anyone not getting their problem corrected. Nor have I seen a negative review. In fact they have all been the opposite.

An American company making an Austrian product better from the ground up is going to have some issues. Heck S&W and Ruger have recalls on every new line they release. With Ruger it is even a running joke that every release comes with a return form for the impending recall. LCR, LCP, SR9 ................

I'd also like to see how often there is legitimately something wrong with the rifle as opposed to someone who didn't RTFM and thought it was just an odd looking AR. From what I've read, there are some legitimate issues, no more than I'd expect from any other company given the numbers in circulation, but a lot of them are ID10T errors.

[kfeltenberger]

Originally Posted by Smith

So far in my time on this forum, I've discovered that Steyr lovers have serious inferiority complexes.

And some have issues because they obviously were cut from the team as One Shot appears to have been...

[Smith]

Originally Posted by kfeltenberger

I'd also like to see how often there is legitimately something wrong with the rifle as opposed to someone who didn't RTFM and thought it was just an odd looking AR. From what I've read, there are some legitimate issues, no more than I'd expect from any other company given the numbers in circulation, but a lot of them are ID10T errors.

Hadn't thought about it, but I too wonder if a new platform is causing some of the operator errors. AR's are notorious for having problems but most of those are related to competence in maintaining them, ammo sensitivity, or spring issues.

[Nobletitus]

Originally Posted by Smith

Well, I just got my STG556 a couple weeks ago and it barely has the packing grease cleaned out of it. I noted the BHO wasn't working so I asked Dave in the Gunroom about it. I figured since I haven't shot it yet, that maybe it was just a break-in issue or possibly the mag. Dave was quick to offer some suggestions and I thought I'd just shoot it and see what happened. The BHO isn't all that big a deal to me as long as everything else worked.

Well low and behold, UPS shows up with a little box today from MSAR!? I had ordered some mags but wasn't expecting them yet. Inside the box was an entirely new trigger pack and an amber 42 rnd mag...... free! Awesome service! Haven't even shot the thing yet and I am already an MSAR fan ......especially after this outstanding show of customer loyalty!

Smith, I find it UNFORTUNATE that others have hijacked your thread to spread their negative thoughts about MSAR. I got my STG ahoy a month ago. I discovered the charging handle can be a little stiff and needs to be pulled straight back into you swiftly to catch behind the mag. Harder than with an AR. The bolt release is also stiffer. The BHO does not hold the bolt open without an empty mag (not like the AR). When I finally got to fire it, I had ZERO problems with functioning, BHO, etc.

Pay no attention to the nay sayers and their posts to surely follow. Your fellow MSAR owners will be happy to provide personal experience and feedback. Cheers!

[AT&T Worker]

New lurker here
I'm glad to see that the OP had the problem with his MSAR taken care of.

OK, are these MSAR's good to go yet, or are they still having some issues from the factory?
It looks like you guys may have a small war going on here.

I don't want to add to it, just asking a question...

Thank you!

[MSAR guy]

Originally Posted by One Shot

MSAR does not have a quality control check.
You can be hired right off the street with only a McDonald's or Taco Bell resume and start from day one on the STG assembly line slapping guns together, boxing and shipping.

I see you still must not have a job. It was people like you, slapping guns together, not giving a shit, that caused the QC problems in the first place. I am pretty sure the QC check is what put your sorry ass out the door. I had lunch at Burger King yesterday and I see they have a sign up looking for people. With your resume I bet you could get right on there, but I bet you are pretty happy to ride that couch.

I am in the parking lot everyday at 5.